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在 peoples用法產品中有5篇Facebook貼文，粉絲數超過1萬的網紅翻譯這檔事，也在其Facebook貼文中提到， 修潤英文 不久前，有個國際譯者協會會長寫一諫書呼籲國際社會介入促使金正恩釋放「犯錯」的口譯員，我說這英文寫作需要修潤，對一個專業譯者組織而言，顯得有些諷刺。經查，這位會長Aurora Humarán應是西班牙文母語，英文是外語，更應找英文母語的專業編輯或譯者幫忙潤稿，免得丟面子。以下建議的修改，以...
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修潤英文
不久前，有個國際譯者協會會長寫一諫書呼籲國際社會介入促使金正恩釋放「犯錯」的口譯員，我說這英文寫作需要修潤，對一個專業譯者組織而言，顯得有些諷刺。經查，這位會長Aurora Humarán應是西班牙文母語，英文是外語，更應找英文母語的專業編輯或譯者幫忙潤稿，免得丟面子。以下建議的修改，以「最少的、必要的修改」爲標準，使之夠合乎英文用法，夠體面，可以刊登、出版。
[1] if true inexcusable 這插入成分寫得很笨拙，必須改。要表達的意思是：if the allegations are true, they are inexcusable。目前這樣寫，即使勉強不算真的錯誤，也造成讀者的剖析困難，例如，兩位網友就提出，是不是想表達 if truly inexcusable？不是的，如果是，語意邏輯就完全錯了。顯然，true inexcusable 擺在一起，容易造成誤解，無助於讀者將之斷開為 if true | inexcusable，改的方法很簡單，又以(a)較簡潔：
a. the allegations, inexcusable if true, that...
b. the allegations — if true, inexcusable — that...
[2] charged 前面最好加一個逗點，否則這麼長的一句，在這裡容易被誤讀成是「political prison camp」遭到指控。
[3] hurt 前面不可以有逗點，這是文法錯誤：英文的主詞和動詞之間不得加逗點。
原英文信如下（標示了應修改處。來源見留言）：
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL TRANSLATORS AND INTERPRETERS
The International Association of Professional Translators and Interpreters (IAPTI) is deeply concerned over the allegations【, if true inexcusable,】[1] that Interpreter Shin Hye-yong, who interpreted for the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea Leader Kim Jung Un at the Hanoi summit with U.S. President Donald Trump, was detained at a political prison camp【】[2] charged with undermining the Leader’s authority by, in the judgment of undisclosed sources, making a “critical interpreting mistake” when President Trump walked away from the negotiations.
As an international association devoted to the advancement of the profession and its practitioners, we are troubled by the process, charges, and detention of Ms. Shin, and invite the authorities to reconsider these actions.
Diplomatic interpreting is an invaluable tool governments use to avoid conflicts and settle differences. Actions like the ones reported by the international media in this case【,】[3] hurt peaceful dialogue, and have a chilling effect on the interpreter and diplomatic community worldwide.
Aurora Humarán
President
On behalf of IAPTI's Board
May 31, 2019
peoples用法 在 翻譯這檔事 Facebook 的精選貼文
修潤英文
不久前，有個國際譯者協會會長寫一諫書呼籲國際社會介入促使金正恩釋放「犯錯」的口譯員，我說這英文寫作需要修潤，對一個專業譯者組織而言，顯得有些諷刺。經查，這位會長Aurora Humarán應是西班牙文母語，英文是外語，更應找英文母語的專業編輯或譯者幫忙潤稿，免得丟面子。以下建議的修改，以「最少的、必要的修改」爲標準，使之夠合乎英文用法，夠體面，可以刊登、出版。
[1] if true inexcusable 這插入成分寫得很笨拙，必須改。要表達的意思是：if the allegations are true, they are inexcusable。目前這樣寫，即使勉強不算真的錯誤，也造成讀者的剖析困難，例如，兩位網友就提出，是不是想表達 if truly inexcusable？不是的，如果是，語意邏輯就完全錯了。顯然，true inexcusable 擺在一起，容易造成誤解，無助於讀者將之斷開為 if true | inexcusable，改的方法很簡單，又以(a)較簡潔：
a. the allegations, inexcusable if true, that...
b. the allegations — if true, inexcusable — that...
[2] charged 前面最好加一個逗點，否則這麼長的一句，在這裡容易被誤讀成是「political prison camp」遭到指控。
[3] hurt 前面不可以有逗點，這是文法錯誤：英文的主詞和動詞之間不得加逗點。
原英文信如下（標示了應修改處。來源見留言）：
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL TRANSLATORS AND INTERPRETERS
The International Association of Professional Translators and Interpreters (IAPTI) is deeply concerned over the allegations【, if true inexcusable,】[1] that Interpreter Shin Hye-yong, who interpreted for the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea Leader Kim Jung Un at the Hanoi summit with U.S. President Donald Trump, was detained at a political prison camp【】[2] charged with undermining the Leader’s authority by, in the judgment of undisclosed sources, making a “critical interpreting mistake” when President Trump walked away from the negotiations.
As an international association devoted to the advancement of the profession and its practitioners, we are troubled by the process, charges, and detention of Ms. Shin, and invite the authorities to reconsider these actions.
Diplomatic interpreting is an invaluable tool governments use to avoid conflicts and settle differences. Actions like the ones reported by the international media in this case【,】[3] hurt peaceful dialogue, and have a chilling effect on the interpreter and diplomatic community worldwide.
Aurora Humarán
President
On behalf of IAPTI's Board
May 31, 2019
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從世衛WHO發言看people兩個用法
無條件支持台灣重新加入世界衛生組織WHO。
不過，爲維護國人「語言衛生」(linguistic health)，還是要指出，蔡總統臉書分享取自WHO官網的影片（連結見留言）中，美國衛生部長發言的中譯字幕，把第一個people翻譯成「人民」(the people, the public in general)是不正確的。（字幕製作者不詳。）
這裡，people位在nation, people, and sector這一串三個連接起來的單數名詞組，自然受前面的'every'修飾，所以意義上是every nation, every people, and every sector。那every people是什麼？國一英文學過，every後面必接單數可數名詞。那麼，people也可以做單數可數名詞嗎？大家回想一下老師教過的，當然可以。我們很早就學到這個用法，意思就是「民族」。
這句正確的理解和翻譯是：
……得益於每一個國家、（每一個）民族、及（每一個）部門。
（部門，sector，指公、私，產、官、學等領域。）
播放一下影片發現，美國部長的下一句話，又用到了people，提到台灣的23 million people，翻譯為「2千3百萬人民」，這就對了，這個people才是我們經常看到的「人民、民眾、人」的意思，前面可以如這裡加具體的數字，也可以只寫the people of Taiwan（台灣人民），這樣的people必須加the。這用法和前面的every people是兩回事。
如果某一個語境說the peoples of Taiwan，那意思當然是「台灣各族裔」，而不是「台灣人民」了。
順便鑑賞一下吳明益《複眼人》（Darryl Sterk英譯）片段，其中單數可數的people的用法、譯法：
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「有不少是Pangcah（邦查），嗯，這裡的阿美人自己稱自己叫邦查，他們多半都投入復原的工作。我很怕這片海岸完了，漁場也完了，邦查的海洋文化，也毀掉了一部分。對漢人來說，海的污染就是沒有錢而已，但對邦查來說，海是他們的祖先，太多神話是跟海相關的，沒有祖先，還當什麼人？」
“Many of them are Pangcah. The word means ‘people,’ and it’s what the Amis aboriginal people around here prefer to call themselves. Most of the Pangcah in Haven are involved in the recovery work. I’m afraid that this is it for this stretch of coast and for the fishing ground too. Part of the sea culture of the Pangcah people has been ruined. To Han Chinese people, all the pollution means is that there’s no more money to make from the sea, but for the Pangcah it’s different: the sea is their ancestor, and so many of their traditional stories are about the sea. Without ancestors, what’s the point of being ‘Pangcah’?”
「你是邦查嗎？」
“Are you Pangcah yourself?”
「不，我是布農。」達赫說：「Bunun的意思，是真正的『人』。」
“No, I’m Bunun,” Dahu said. “The word bunun means that we are the true ‘people.’ ”
莎拉完全懂。世界各地的種族，原先都只以為自己才是「真正的人」。
Sara completely understood. Every people in the world, in the beginning, felt that they were the only “true people.”
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